[Mondrian] Mondrian 4, Pentaho 6 CE, Saiko

Wed Apr 6 05:43:34 EDT 2016

Counter what argument?

You don't have to face 1000++ migrations of production customers. Maybe you
can make that decision and start from a clean place - we can't. Damn
customers, always making life miserable :p

Obviously I'd prefer that our users could benefit from saiku while reusing
the same schemas and definitions, but I can only respect your decision...

-pedro
On Apr 6, 2016 10:36 AM, "Tom Barber" <tom at analytical-labs.com> wrote:

> To counter that argument, we're removing support for Mondrian 3 in Saiku
> 4, so that will be fun :)
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> On 6 April 2016 at 10:33, Pedro Alves <pmgalves at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Guys, simply put, pentaho uses and will continue to use Mondrian 3.
>>
>> For the needs of our users (customers and community) m4, unfortunately,
>> isn't ready yet and to get there there's a heavy investment involved that
>> we're not sure if makes sense for us to do alone. To be clear, by "it's not
>> ready", I'm talking about functionality parity to what can be done today
>> with m3. While it's clear to be that, architecturally speaking, m4 may be
>> superior, in the field that's not reason alone to make such an important
>> decision.
>>
>> My recommendation is, within pentaho, use Mondrian 3. It's what we
>> maintain, fix and improve
>>
>> -pedro
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2016 10:23 AM, "Tom Barber" <tom at analytical-labs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bleh, I might have been lying that might be EE only. 10 mins, I'll see
>>> what I can dig up.
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>>> On 6 April 2016 at 10:22, Tom Barber <tom at analytical-labs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FWIW the stuff in the blog post doesn't work for Saiku in 5.x either :)
>>>>
>>>> Basically the later versions of 5.x and 6 ship Mondrian 4 for the Mongo
>>>> stuff, you can't drop the libs in, the question is though, can we expose
>>>> that engine to Saiku as a BI Server plugin. I added some connectivity stuff
>>>> to tell Saiku to use mondrian 4 with certain data sources in the BI server,
>>>> but I don't think the OSGI based Mondrian 4 engine is available.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
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>>>> Tel: +44(0)5603641316
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>>>> (Thanks to the Saiku community we reached our Kickstart
>>>> <http://kickstarter.com/projects/2117053714/saiku-reporting-interactive-report-designer/>
>>>> goal, but you can always help by sponsoring the project
>>>> <http://www.meteorite.bi/products/saiku/sponsorship>)
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>>>> On 6 April 2016 at 10:18, Conrad Crampton <conrad.crampton at secdata.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for comments so far (and the offer Tom).
>>>>> So, as it stands currently my choices appear to use BI Server 6 CE
>>>>> with Mondrian 3.11 (with Saiku too) or move down to 5.x with 4 (following
>>>>> the blog post mentioned previously).
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m interested in the comment ". Pentaho 6 ships Mondrian 4 in the
>>>>> OSGI land” - does this mean that I can simply drop in the Mondrian 4 libs
>>>>> into BI Server lib directory?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Conrad
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <mondrian-bounces at pentaho.org> on behalf of Tom Barber <
>>>>> tom at analytical-labs.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Mondrian developer mailing list <mondrian at pentaho.org>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 6 April 2016 at 08:29
>>>>> To: Mondrian developer mailing list <mondrian at pentaho.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mondrian] Mondrian 4, Pentaho 6 CE, Saiko
>>>>>
>>>>> For Pentaho 5.x I did the CM4 plugin which sorta worked for a while.
>>>>> Pentaho 6 ships Mondrian 4 in the OSGI land, if someone has the time, or
>>>>> wants to sponsor an investigation into exposing that library to Saiku,
>>>>> we'll be able to hook up to it with little difficulty, just depends how
>>>>> easy it is to access.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
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>>>>> Director Meteorite.bi - Saiku Analytics Founder
>>>>> Tel: +44(0)5603641316
>>>>>
>>>>> (Thanks to the Saiku community we reached our Kickstart
>>>>> <http://kickstarter.com/projects/2117053714/saiku-reporting-interactive-report-designer/>
>>>>> goal, but you can always help by sponsoring the project
>>>>> <http://www.meteorite.bi/products/saiku/sponsorship>)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 April 2016 at 08:27, Dan Keeley <dan at dankeeley.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a good question, unfortunately there's no easy answer. I
>>>>>> suggest posting it on the Pentaho community mailing list though, you may
>>>>>> get more traction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Essentially Pentaho just haven't got the guts (or confidence in their
>>>>>> test team) to move to Mondrian 4 - everything they've done recently shows
>>>>>> no commitment to it.  Even to the point where new features are still going
>>>>>> into Mondrian3.  I spoke to the head of dev about it a few years ago and he
>>>>>> just said why do you want mondrian 4? he couldnt see why I was asking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But more often than not they do surprise us.  So I could be wrong :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:30:50 +0000, Conrad Crampton <
>>>>>> conrad.crampton at SecData.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I’ve read the blog post [1] by Will Gorman which discusses Mondrian 4
>>>>>> installation into Pentaho 5.1, but this is from June 2014. I am looking for
>>>>>> something a bit more recent that points in the direction of using the
>>>>>> latest Pentaho 6 CE with Mondrian 4 (and preferably with Saiku).
>>>>>> I have the Mondrian in Action book which is based on Mondrian 4 so
>>>>>> coming to this a new it makes sense (to me) to start on v4, but I am a
>>>>>> little frustrated by Pentaho CE only having Mondrian v3.11 with it. I
>>>>>> haven’t tried it (so that may just be the answer) but will the instructions
>>>>>> in [1] get me to where I want to be with Mondrian 4 and BI Server 6 CE (and
>>>>>> will Mondrian be able to be work with all the other data sources)?
>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get started from a new
>>>>>> installation with little knowledge.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Conrad
>>>>>> [1] http://www.willgorman.com/?p=58
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